Why many distros have abandoned lxde or changed for lxqt?

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Re: Why many distros have abandoned lxde or changed for lxqt?

by donchriscoe » Sun May 07, 2023 5:58 pm

I just did a search on Distrowatch for both Lxde and Lxqt and the results are:

34 distros use Lxde

35 distros use Lxqt

At this point I would not say Lxqt is blowing away Lxde: A mere one difference.

Re: Why many distros have abandoned lxde or changed for lxqt?

by wandrien » Fri May 05, 2023 8:55 am

edward wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:12 am LXDE is in development, the current version is 0.10.1.

I recently discovered an issue attempting to use some Openbox themes in LXDE and reported my findings. The issue was confirmed and a proposed patch to correct the issue, has been submitted.

My desktops are now 14 and 11 years old, the older of the two recently had the HDD replaced with a solid state drive and LXDE runs amazingly fast on both of them. With the older desktop now running on the SSD, it's now so fast, one would think it's a brand new system. :)
Hi!

Unfortunately, the LXDE development has stalled. The latest commit dates in the repos on Github:
  • lxpanel: Mar 4, 2021
  • lxappearance: May 18, 2022
  • pcmanfm: Mar 4, 2021
  • lxsession: Apr 20, 2021
  • libfm: Feb 6, 2021
  • lxterminal: Dec 4, 2021
  • gpicview: Mar 5, 2021
There seems to be a quite lot of bug reports, patches and pull requests to review there, but nobody have any time or desire to get into it.

I sent emails to a couple of LXDE developers several days ago, but have no response yet. I hope to get in touch to someone who has admin access to the repos to consider adding my github profile to the project.

I am familiar with the code base of some LXDE parts and I could get busy reviewing and merging patches as well as preparing bug-fix releases.

edward wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:12 amMy desktops are now 14 and 11 years old, the older of the two recently had the HDD replaced with a solid state drive and LXDE runs amazingly fast on both of them. With the older desktop now running on the SSD, it's now so fast, one would think it's a brand new system. :)
I have two laptops that is about 10 or 11 years old too. The CPUs are Core i5-2450M and Core i7-4700MQ. I've been running Arch Linux for more than 10 years on this hardware, and it works blazing fast here. The DE is basically LXDE with some parts replaced with my custom heavily patched versions. This hardware is capable of running without noticeable slowdown the modern versions of XFCE, KDE and GNOME as well, but I am completely satisfied with my custom setup that works fine for many years and see no reason for switching to another DE. I also have two more desktop computers with older and slower CPUs (such as Pentium D-935), and LXDE is the only possible option there.

Re: Why many distros have abandoned lxde or changed for lxqt?

by peebee » Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:49 am

Re: Why many distros have abandoned lxde or changed for lxqt?

by edward » Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:01 pm

Yes, LXDE is available with Ubuntu, install using Synaptic or via command line.

Re: Why many distros have abandoned lxde or changed for lxqt?

by Rex Bouwense » Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:55 pm

You can install lxde on virtually any distro. I believe what the conversation has morphed into is which distros offer the lxde as a default download and Ubuntu no longer does that. However, as you have correctly stated it is in their repositories and can be downloaded.

Re: Why many distros have abandoned lxde or changed for lxqt?

by dlinux » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:20 am

Rex Bouwense wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:29 pm Ubuntu (more correctly Lubuntu) moved from lxde to lxqt with the 20.04 release. The last LTS that used lxde was 18.04.
I know that lubuntu moved from lxde to lxqt. But lxde is available https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LXDE

Re: Why many distros have abandoned lxde or changed for lxqt?

by Rex Bouwense » Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:29 pm

Ubuntu (more correctly Lubuntu) moved from lxde to lxqt with the 20.04 release. The last LTS that used lxde was 18.04.

Re: Why many distros have abandoned lxde or changed for lxqt?

by dlinux » Sun Apr 09, 2023 5:11 pm

dlinux wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:27 pm And opensuse offers lxde
also ubuntu 22.04 LTS offers lxde

Re: Why many distros have abandoned lxde or changed for lxqt?

by edward » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:12 am

LXDE is in development, the current version is 0.10.1.

I recently discovered an issue attempting to use some Openbox themes in LXDE and reported my findings. The issue was confirmed and a proposed patch to correct the issue, has been submitted.

My desktops are now 14 and 11 years old, the older of the two recently had the HDD replaced with a solid state drive and LXDE runs amazingly fast on both of them. With the older desktop now running on the SSD, it's now so fast, one would think it's a brand new system. :)

Re: Why many distros have abandoned lxde or changed for lxqt?

by Ziggi » Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:41 pm

Why many distros have abandoned lxde or changed for lxqt?
I don’t know why – do you..?

Why would you want to slow down your laptop-computer by making it less efficient?
https://imgur.com/a/V6lx0kk

Lubuntu uses more than double the resource of my Antix-22 Full LXDE setup –
https://www.chippiko.com/lubuntu-vs-antix-ram
Every app needs more resource with Lubuntu - so open those listed with Lubuntu and watch the resources get sucked up.

IMHO one of the main reasons is LXQT Lubuntu and it’s Forum and all the other Distro, FOSS and Linux forums. It would seem to me that they have planted the classic Moderator + Fanboy + Groupthink to quell any positive posts and at the same time repeat verbatim the tired old mantra that LXDE is dead.
Linux org forum’s moderator is also on the official Lubuntu team yet does not declare any conflict of interest as he trashes a LXDE topic. To cover this he often coyly says he loves LXDE.
You can find him on AskUbuntu, Unix & Linux StackExchange, but hopefully not here as he spends most of his forum time online at Linux org.
Check it out for yourself…..

There again - In February 2009, Mark Shuttleworth invited the LXDE project to become a self-maintained project within the Ubuntu community, with the aim of leading to a dedicated new official Ubuntu derivative to be called Lubuntu.
Of course I am not suggesting that there is any top-down or financial aspect leading to lxqt adoption. Just like Goolag and AOSP – for sure it is all open source AFTER release but the software coding direction for the next and subsequent releases is closely directed by…...

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