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Lubuntu swithcing to LXQt

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:18 pm
by That Random Guy
Infrastructure and Project Changes
Lubuntu is switching to LXQt for 18.10

This is a huge change we have been planning for years, and we're finally doing it.

Simon Quigley, Lubuntu's Release Manager, broke the news on the Ask Noah Show and Softpedia Linux wrote an article the next day. We've received mixed feedback so far from the people we've talked to, so here's a quick FAQ:

Q: Why are you switching?
A: This is for quite a few reasons, but here are the main ones:

Upstream LXDE development has drastically slowed, and most if not all of the desktop is GTK 2, which is losing support and will eventually be phased out.
LXQt development upstream is fairly active, and LXQt is based off of the Qt 5 framework, which has a tendency to be more stable than GTK (no dependency on GNOME).

Q: LXQt is not yet on 1.0; do you have concerns about stability?
A: Upstream LXQt only hits 1.0 when it's Wayland-complete, and is not necessarily an accurate mark of stability. LXQt was marked as "stable" for the 0.11 release (arguably for the 0.10 release), and with steady progress on 0.13, we could reach 1.0 sooner than later.

Q: Lubuntu has been promising to switch for ages. Why has it taken this long?
A: This was for two main reasons which have been resolved: lack of team resources, and the technology hasn't been in place quite yet.
We don't want to switch close to an LTS release, because we take users' stability very seriously. LXDE has been rock solid and stable, and while it is potentially subject to bitrot, tends to work very well. So the ideal time to switch is right after the LTS so we have close to two years to iron things out before rolling it out to LTS users.
We didn't decide to make the switch after the 16.04 LTS release because we were having some glaring issues, and team resources were scarce. Between that time and now, Lubuntu has also changed Release Managers and gained new members of the team. So, after evaluation both in person at LinuxFest NorthWest among part of the Lubuntu team, and online with the whole Lubuntu team shortly after the release, we decided this was the right time to jump.

Q: Will Lubuntu still be as light as it once was?
A: Yes and no. Lubuntu, with this transition, is no longer what it originally was. As we use more modern technologies, Lubuntu will use more resources (which is inevitable). However, while we won't have the amount of granular minimalism that we once had, the statistics we have seen internally strongly suggest that users won't see much of an increase. Some people may have noticed that in the release announcement for 18.04, we bumped the system requirements to 1 GB of RAM at minimum (among other things); this wasn't because Lubuntu had actually gotten larger, it was because we hadn't updated those particular values in ten years. Yes, Lubuntu can probably run with less, but as we move forward, applications like web browsers can and will use more resources.

Q: I have Lubuntu running in production environments which need support of an LXDE Lubuntu (18.04 or 16.04) for longer than the length of the support cycle. Can I still get support?
A: Contact Simon Quigley. We are absolutely open to working with you, and, in fact, we are in the process of setting up a more formal framework for this. More details to come.

Q: Lxqt? lxqt? LxQt? LXQT? What is it?
A: It's LXQt. It used to be named LxQt, but it has since been renamed LXQt.

So far, to work towards this, we have reworked the seeds, updated the metapackage, and made a fix to our Calamares settings to fix the installer. Expect steady progress, and furthermore, the daily ISOs use LXQt now.
The above was quoted from Lubuntu's official blog.

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Re: Lubuntu swithcing to LXQt

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:17 pm
by Rex Bouwense
Yes. This has been promised since 2015. As far as I know Lubuntu may be the only distro switching to LXQt. That may change.

Lubuntu swithcing to LXQt

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:21 pm
by Michaelsot
Есть Lubuntu 14.04.4, после уставноки LXQt в меню появились дубликаты одних и тех же программы и настроек. Как с этим боротсья? При обновлении они что ли дважды уставноились?
Нужно удалять было LXDE перед уставновкой LXQT иил как?

:)

Re: Lubuntu swithcing to LXQt

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:58 pm
by Rex Bouwense
I am not sure what you are talking about since Lubuntu 14.04.4 reached EOL back in April of 2017

Re: Lubuntu swithcing to LXQt

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:46 am
by drooly
Michaelsot wrote:Есть Lubuntu 14.04.4, после уставноки LXQt в меню появились дубликаты одних и тех же программы и настроек. Как с этим боротсья? При обновлении они что ли дважды уставноились?
Нужно удалять было LXDE перед уставновкой LXQT иил как?
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google translate sucks wrote: There is Lubuntu 14.04.4, after the LXQt installation, duplicates of the same program and settings appeared in the menu. How is this a bar? When upgrading, are they twice statutory?
Need to delete was LXDE before the installation of LXQT and how?
hmm. not much better.

Lubuntu swithcing to LXQt

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:01 am
by Warnerbep
Je crois aussi que les LTS sont une meilleure idee pour Lubuntu que les rolling releases.

Re: Lubuntu swithcing to LXQt

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:35 pm
by Rex Bouwense
I don't believe that Lubuntu has even considered changing to rolling releases. While it will be a bit more resource intensive, the team has assured everyone that it will still be a light distro. However, it may not be a good choice for older machines as it once was.